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Questions & Answers with Dr. Bray
Dr. Robert E. Bray, Star Milling’s Consulting Equine Nutritionist
(Permission granted for the reprinting of this material from REBray’s Equine Nutritional Management© manual for the 2012 Star Milling website)

I feed my horse carrots and apples 3 times a week? Is that too much?

I have a 6 month old Quarter filly that was just weaned. Do I need to feed her grain? Can I feed her alfalfa hay?

I started training my 3 year old Quarter horse but my trainer said he needs more energy and to start feeding oats. Which oats do I use, roll, whole or crimp?

I have been happy how my pleasure Icelandic mare has been doing on the Integrity Lite feed - really great. In the summer/hot weather months, I'd like to give her feed that peps her up a little.  Would the Integrity Senior be a safe solution? Or, perhaps I should mix the Integrity Lite with the Integrity Senior half and half? She is in proper weight and has no health issues. She is 14 years old. I would just like to give her more pep when the weather is hot if there is a recommended approach. I've never fed her grain.

My 27 year old has ulcers and my vet recommended feeding herbs. I feed mostly alfalfa, but I try to get alfalfa-grass mix when I can. What herbs would you recommend?

My mare is going to foal in June. What should I be feeding her? Right now she is being fed alfalfa hay and 2 cups of senior feed. 

I recently got a 5 y/o Arabian who has a problem with gaining weight.  I have fed him over 10 lbs of hay, along with pellets and a senior feed. Since we have been in training, he has no problem with energy, but hasn't put on any muscle.   My vet recommended an extruded feed, and when I took your class at Cal Poly, you were just coming out with Integrity.  Is this feed an extruded feed?  Will it make my young guy "hot"?  Will it help him put on more weight, even in training?

I have 2 senior horses. Trying to cut down on strict senior feed for both. I have bought your senior feed as well as your beet pulp. My question is how much beet pulp is safe to give to my horses as a supplement for alfalfa. One mare has cushiness… the other is in good health but has some dental issues to be addressed next month. I am giving both mares 1 flake of alfalfa per day; …need your suggestions as what to give as a supplement for the other flake. Thank you.

A new friend just got a 5 yr old Galieceno Gelding. He wants to use him for trail riding 3 to 4 times a week and he weighs 900 pounds. I told him about how Integrity has made a difference with my horse and he is healthy and has a nice soft shiny coast and his weight is right where it should be. What type of Integrity should he give his horse and amounts of hay and the best kind when available. Told him you were the best and I would find out for him so he can give his horse the best.

I have an 8 yr old mustang, 13.2 hands, very low keyed temperament, not doing anything, and fed about 5 pounds of Bermuda and 2 pounds of Bermuda pellets. He gets about 1/2 cup of Integrity along with salt (about 1 teaspoon) to increase his salt intake during the summer. He should weigh about 800 pounds, but looks obese to me. I am hesitant to reduce his forage, because I do not want him to colic. What can I do to help this little guy?

I’m trying to estimate the amount of Integrity Lite (no molasses) to feed my two horses; a 22 yr Andalusian gelding with poor upper molars, and a 19 yr Paso Fino mare with IR (insulin resistant) and minimal work. Live together in a 24X48 stall with 24/7 bale net of Bermuda.  The Integrity bag label suggests about 6.6 pounds for a 1000 lb horse.  In your response to an owner with a 28 yr horse with Cushing's you had suggested 2 pounds/day of the Integrity Lite (no molasses).   I feed 4 pounds per day to the gelding and 2 pounds/day to the mare - each split into am/pm feedings.  Why the big difference in the label recommendation (6 pounds/day) and the recommendation to the 28 yr horse (2 pounds/day)?  The big gap confused me. As the staple, would Orchard or another hay be better?

I have a 3 yr old Thoroughbred laid off race training for sesamoiditis. I need something to mix the silicon supplement with while undergoing shockwave therapy. I was thinking of Integrity Lite or Low Starch?

I have an IR (insulin resistant) mare (vet diagnosed) that I have to keep on low starch, a 32 year old senior with minimal teeth, a Hackney pony and a 13 year old quarter horse. I am content with how each looks right now but am looking for a more consistent feeding program. My vet has had me using beet pulp (soaked, rinsed for the IR horse). Both the pony and QH put on weight easily and are worked lightly.  Currently I feed 3 times a day and feed consists of beet pulp soaked (mornings only), a senior feed, a lite feed from the same company, a high moisture forage and orchard grass.  With the exception of the hay, all feeds are scale weighed. The IR horse gets only a small amount of orchard and more of the high moisture forage.  I try to keep her ESC+starch below 11%. If we exceed what her body can handle she gets sore feet.  I do ride and drive her a couple of times a week.  She is not on medication and I have been able to manage her IR fairly well with feeding and exercise. I'd like to get away from the beet pulp as a stand-alone feed if appropriate.  I'd appreciate your input.  I've use the feed that I do because it is one of the few feeds that publish the WSC and ESC.


QuestionI feed Integrity horse/senior to my 20yr old Arabian and 4 yr old Icelandic horses. I have measured and weighted out the proper amounts according to your recommendations. I have been feeding Integrity for about 2+ years, and LOVE it! I feed a flake of grass hay morning and night and give them Integrity for lunch. My question is...I read that I should be splitting up the amount in 2 different feedings. Is this correct? Or should I continue feeing the way I am? I always thought I was doing it correctly until I read in Equus magazine and they said I should be feeding it in split amounts. Now I'm confused.


QuestionI have contacted you before and appreciated your prompt answer. Now I have another question. I have an old mare who has dental problems ..soon to be addressed next month. She is on integrity and the vet told me to keep her off of all grass and alfalfa hay due to the fact she sounded impacted at the vet call. Is Integrity all right for the time being without any foliage added?


QuestionI am going to do a thru-ride of the Pacific Crest Trail starting in April of 2013. I have a 1250 lb horse and an 800 lb mule.  The conditions of our ride are: 2,650 miles over 5-6 months, temperature changes of freezing to over 100 degrees, altitude changes from 500 ft to 13,000 ft and 10-12 hours a day with 1 day of rest per week.  I am working on the feed regimen for my equines.  Can you help me find any publications or published papers on this topic?  Do you have any suggestions for helping me work through this problem?


QuestionI just got a 35+ year old horse that is a 1.5 on the BCS. I am trying to figure out a way to safely put weight back on this guy. He seems to have no trouble chewing his food and eats every scrap of everything put in front of him. I also have a younger (less than 5 years old) that was stabled with him that is a solid 3 on the BCS. Right now I have them both on Integrity Senior and Alfalfa Hay. Everything I have read about horses that are 3 BCS or lower says that they should only be fed alfalfa until they reach at least a 3 because they need the extra protein because their bodies have been breaking down protein due to the lack of food. I have never been a fan of feeding straight alfalfa, but I am unsure of switching them off of it at this time. I plan on adding oil to both of their diets but I am trying to introduce everything slowly as I don't have any clue how often they were fed or how much prior to them coming to me. I am feeding four times a day currently. I have only had them for two days so far. I was also wondering how long it would be before I can start to see a difference in these two guys. They are being fed separately now so the older one doesn't have to compete for its food. Thanks in advance for any advice and I enjoyed you classes at Cal Poly!


QuestionI have a paint/pinto horse she is 10 years old and will be 11 in April. She is very healthy and I ride about twice a week and get her out and exercise about 3 times a week I want to start getting her in shape soon. But my question is about her food I just started giving her orchard hay and I just don’t know what else I should be giving her and she is an all around healthy horse.


QuestionI have attended your seminars and in many of your answers in Dr. Bray’s Corner you used the words nutritional management.  What do you mean?


QuestionI have a 24 year old quarter horse. He eats 1/4 to 1/3 flake of alfalfa and 1/2 flake of Bermuda hay morning and night. He is out in a Bermuda pasture for about 5 hrs each day. He is also on “vitamin / mineral” supplement. My vet recommended feeding a senior feed with less starch and we now feed him Integrity Lite. He’s worked 4 - 5 days a week of trail riding or hand walks. Does he need to be on the “vitamin / mineral” supplement?


QuestionI have a 14 year old quarter horse gelding. I am currently feeding a flake of orchard grass in the morning, a heavy forage flake and 1/2 a flake of alfalfa at night. He is also on a strict psyllium regimen of 1 cup psyllium husk mixed with senior grain as we live at the beach and he is on sand and has had numerous sand colics. Forage hay is getting harder to find and I would like to know your thoughts on cubes as a replacement. He doesn't work hard, only trail rides twice a week on average.


QuestionHow are poor feed source deficiencies such as vitamin E addressed in horse feeds? How does your feed compare nutritionally to National Research Council (NRC) 2007 Nutrient Requirements of Horses?


QuestionHi Dr Bray, I really appreciate your advice and suggestions. I went to the equine affair in Pomona last January and there was a company selling hay net bags. Used for free feeding horses. The hay bags had netting with small openings so the horse eats slower and have access to hay 24/7. I know you are a nutritionist and I wanted to know your opinion on free feeding with this type product. I have two ponies and a mare that eat Bermuda and now I added Integrity Lite. I wanted to try free feeding with this hay net but I am worried.


QuestionI have a mare that is 15 yrs old and two 10-hand ponies, 5 and 8 yrs old. I noticed my ponies’ coats were not as shining as last summer when I was feeding alfalfa hay. The problem was that my horse started urinating a lot and so I changed my hay this spring to Bermuda than someone told that feeding Bermuda can cause an impaction. I don't know what hay to feed.  I feel like Bermuda grass, seems more natural for my horses to eat than Alfalfa. So I want to add Integrity to their daily feed. I looked at the Ingredients and I like what I saw. I am not sure which type of Integrity I should feed with their Bermuda grass. I saw lite, and senior and low starch. What would you recommend? Can my horse and ponies eat the same type even with their age differences? And than how much? They are all at good weights not underweight. I am concerned about how much for my ponies. They weigh about 372 pounds.


QuestionThere were two types of salt blocks at the feed stores. What are the differences? Do I buy the brownish-red or white one?


QuestionI emailed you recently regarding my mare and my two ponies.  You suggested 1/4 to 1/3 (cup) of oil but I am not sure what type. Can you make a suggestion? I have purchased a bag of Integrity Lite and there was two choices, one with molasses and the other with no molasses. I bought the one with molasses. Is this one ok? Does 1/2 lb of Integrity weigh the same as liquid (8oz) cup, and so can I use 1 cup or do I need to weigh on a food scale? 


QuestionI have a 8 yr Paint mare, in training, I usually work her daily about 40 minutes a day. She is on Integrity, Adult/Senior; 1 1/4 lb, 2x daily along with the same amount of Bermuda pellets. I’m also supplementing her with  antacid supplement, prebiotic supplement, hoof supplement, and joint supplement, and psyllium 2x a week and bran mash as needed  I feed Bermuda hay,  2 flakes 2x a day. She had a knee injury about 2 years ago, then 1 year ago when I got her she scuffed up her back legs while being trailer to me, for about 8 months she would stock up every night. Every time she was brought out to work or she got excited she would get diarrhea.  So my question is am I over supplementing her or is it ok to supplement with the Integrity?


QuestionI am a former student of yours and I am wondering how to switch my horse to Integrity Lite – No Molasses from straight beet pulp. My 14.2 hand mustang is currently on 12 lbs of orchard/alfalfa (after a colic episode) and about 2/3 pound of shredded beet pulp. I would like to replace the beet pulp with the Integrity and increase her hay back up to around 17 lbs. She had been on 1 lb of beet pulp and about 16-18 lbs of orchard/alfalfa (60% orchard, 40% alfalfa) before I decreased it to try to make her lose weight. She colic 5 days ago and had another "gas bubble episode" 2 days ago and I know that she does not have enough hay in her daily diet to promote gut integrity. I am slowly bringing her hay and beet pulp back up after her latest colic episode and I would like to know the best way to switch from beet pulp to Integrity Lite. I know that Integrity Lite already has beet pulp in it so I am wondering how slowly to switch it over. I plan to feed her 1 lb of Integrity and 11 lbs orchard and 6 lbs alfalfa). This time, I will increase her exercise instead of decreasing her feed.


QuestionI have 2 senior horses. Trying to cut down on strict senior feed for both. I have bought your senior feed as well as your beet pulp. My question is how much beet pulp is safe to give to my horses as a supplement for alfalfa. One mare has cushiness… the other is in good health but has some dental issues to be addressed next month. I am giving both mares 1 flake of alfalfa per day; …need your suggestions as what to give as a supplement for the other flake. Thank you.


QuestionA new friend just got a 5 yr old Galieceno Gelding. He wants to use him for trail riding 3 to 4 times a week and he weighs 900 pounds. I told him about how Integrity has made a difference with my horse and he is healthy and has a nice soft shiny coast and his weight is right where it should be. What type of Integrity should he give his horse and amounts of hay and the best kind when available. Told him you were the best and I would find out for him so he can give his horse the best.


QuestionI have spoken with you at Equine Affaire and you helped me via telephone with muscle issues with one of my quarter horses (which made everything bad "go away"). I have an 8 yr old mustang, 13.2 hands, very low keyed temperament, not doing anything, and fed about 5 pounds of Bermuda and 2 pounds of Bermuda pellets. He gets about 1/2 cup of Integrity along with salt (about 1 teaspoon) to increase his salt intake during the summer. He should weigh about 800 pounds, but looks obese to me. I am hesitant to reduce his forage, because I do not want him to colic. What can I do to help this little guy?


QuestionMy friend gives her mare 4-way and lets the foal eat it also. Do you recommend feeding a foal that is still with her mother? Do I feed 4-way to my foal?


QuestionIs molasses added to beet pulp that you buy in a bag? If so why?


QuestionHow does your feed compare nutritionally to the National Research Council (NRC). 2007 Nutrient Requirements of Horses?


QuestionDo you have to soak beet pulp in water the day before feeding?


QuestionHow do I switch my horse to Integrity Lite without Molasses from straight beet pulp? I know that Integrity Lite already has beet pulp in it so I am wondering how slowly to switch it over.


QuestionI recently got a 5 y/o Arabian who has a problem with gaining weight.  I have fed him over 10 lbs of hay, along with pellets and a senior feed. Since we have been in training, he has no problem with energy, but hasn't put on any muscle.   My vet recommended an extruded feed, and when I took your class at Cal Poly, you were just coming out with Integrity.  Is this feed an extruded feed?  Will it make my young guy "hot"?  Will it help him put on more weight, even in training?  

Also, feed alone does NOT put on muscle; a misconception that has existed in the horse industry since I can remember. Muscle build-up is influenced by genetic potential and of course an exercise program complemented by a balance diet that supplies the needed energy and nutrients for muscle improvement.

 When there are difficulties with a horse gaining weight, there may be one or a combination of factors that contribute to the challenges. Looking at the type of feed or amounts fed is not always the first consideration. The horse’s complete nutritional management and health management needs to be considered. Some considerations will seem simple but as with any problem solving approach, exploring the options are needed to identify a solution. So factors to consider…

  1. What is the current body condition score? What changes in the body condition score have occurred over the past 30 days, …60 days, …90 days?
  2. How often is the horse dewormed? What deworming compound(s) were used? Is there a rotation in the deworming compounds active ingredients being used? Is a boticide being used? These considerations should be explored with your veterinarian.
  3. When was the horse’s teeth checked and/or floated?
  4. What is currently being fed? …hay type & amounts? …balance concentrate and/or commodities types & amounts? Commodities reference individual feedstuffs that are added to the diet; for example rice bran, oats, wheat bran, etc?
  5. How many times per day is the horse fed?
  6. Is the horse fed with other horses or as an individual?
  7. How long has the current diet been fed? Have there been changes in last 30 days with types or amounts of feed being fed?
  8. Who feeds the horse? …training facility? …boarding facility? If others are feeding, is there a “checks & balance” in place ensuring the correct amounts are being fed?
  9. Have there been changes in the horse’s boarding conditions? ..change in facility? ..change in stable mates?
  10. What is the current work/training routine? How often? How many days per week? What is the level of intensity?
  11. When did his work/training program begin?
  12. Have there been any health issues?

Extruded feeds have been cooked at high steam-temperatures and pressure for a short period of time. This extrusion process also allows the cooked product to be pushed through a die which is what provides the uniform and different shapes. The cooking process will partially “break down” or prepare the starches and protein so that in general these components of the feed are better utilized. There are studies that support the better utilization of extruded feeds. The fundamental question is when will an extruded feed best serve the horse relative to the horse’s energy needs? Although extruded feeds are more expensive to make, thus more expensive to the consumer, I have always liked the extrusion process with feeds that contain high level of grains, such as corn, barley and oats. I will recommend extruded feeds that contain high levels of grains  when the horse has high energy demands such as race horses, polo ponies, three-day event horses, some working horses (roping, cutting), early lactation, and sometimes selectively during early stages of growth.

If a horse needs to gain weight, the first approach is more calories. More calories can be accomplished by providing more feed or adding fat in the form of oil. Adding fat usually will not “insult” the nutrient – calorie ratio with most formulas and can provide the additional energy needed to gain weight. The amount of oil fed is depended on what is currently being fed, the horse’s body weight, and current work intensity. So I would need additional information to provide a specific amount of oil.


QuestionMy mare is going to foal in June. What should I be feeding her? Right now she is being fed alfalfa hay and 2 cups of senior feed.

AnswerThe 2007 National Research Council (NRC) Nutrient Requirements of Horses energy recommendations for pregnancy are 5 – 8% greater than those published in 1989. The 2007 recommendations also suggest increasing energy intakes above maintenance much earlier in pregnancy, beginning in the 5th month. Although experience has guided my recommendations that the 1989 reference were inadequate, the 2007 recommendations are higher than I generally suggest. A table is provided that summarizes the energy recommendations for pregnancy compared to the maintenance requirements from the 2007 NRC and the 1989 NRC Nutrient Requirements of Horses.

You should have started feeding your mare a balance formula by at least the 7th month of pregnancy and continue to increase the amounts fed to maintain a body condition score of around 6.0. In the final 3 months of pregnancy the 2007 energy recommendations average 21.3% above a maintenance diet and the 1989 NRC recommendations average were 14.6% above a maintenance diet.

Comparison of 2007 and 1989 NRC Nutrient Requirements of Horses Energy Requirements during Pregnancy


QuestionMy 27 year old has ulcers and my vet recommended feeding herbs. I feed mostly alfalfa, but I try to get alfalfa-grass mix when I can. What herbs would you recommend?


QuestionI have been happy how my pleasure Icelandic mare has been doing on the Integrity Lite feed - really great. In the summer/hot weather months, I'd like to give her feed that peps her up a little.  Would the Integrity Senior be a safe solution? Or, perhaps I should mix the Integrity Lite with the Integrity Senior half and half? She is in proper weight and has no health issues. She is 14 years old. I would just like to give her more pep when the weather is hot if there is a recommended approach. I've never fed her grain.


QuestionI started training my 3 year old Quarter horse but my trainer said he needs more energy and to start feeding oats. Which oats do I use, roll, whole or crimp?


QuestionI have a 3 and 5 year old QH mare. I recently changed them from an all alfalfa and oat diet to predominantly Bermuda hay, almost free fed with maybe a couple lbs of alfalfa 2 times per day. They are up to 3 cups twice a day of Integrity Lite, no molasses. The 3 year old had physitis issues when younger. Is 6 cups of the Integrity Lite enough to give them the maximum vitamin/mineral supplement they need? Do I give a vitamin supplement? I have a 3 and 5 year old QH mare. I recently changed them from an all alfalfa and oat diet to predominantly Bermuda hay, almost free fed with maybe a couple lbs of alfalfa 2 times per day. They are up to 3 cups twice a day of Integrity Lite, no molasses. The 3 year old had physitis issues when younger. Is 6 cups of the Integrity Lite enough to give them the maximum vitamin/mineral supplement they need? Do I give a vitamin supplement?

AnswerThe general recommendation I provide for 2 – 3 year olds is 1.4 – 1.5% of their body weight in dry forage (hay) and approximately 0.4 – 0.6% of their body weight in a balanced feed mix. The feed mix needs to be formulated for growing horses that will compliment the forage portion of the diet. When feeding a balance formula I do not recommend any additional supplements.

The Integrity Lite was formulated for adult or older, idle or less active horses. This formula also provides a rich source of soluble fiber for gut integrity. The Integrity Lite is not the correct Integrity formula for your late growing and early adult horses; the correct formula is Integrity Growth .

Let’s use for example a 2 year old that weighs approximately 920 lbs and is expected to mature to 15.2 hands and 1100 lbs. The daily diet would consist of approximately 13 lbs of grass hay and approximately 4 to 5 lbs of the Integrity Growth formula. Please keep in mind there are many factors that influence the horse’s energy and nutrient requirements; …which is why I encourage horse owners to become familiar with the body condition scoring system (this system is provided with photos at Dr. Bray’s Corner). The body condition scoring system allows one to manage feed amounts relative to body weight. Any adjustments in increasing or reducing feed amounts will be with the amounts of Integrity Growth; …forage is critical to maintaining gut integrity and the recommended amounts provided are for this age group.


QuestionI have a 28 year old horse diagnosed by a DVM for Cushing. He is taking 1 mg of Pergolide.
What do I feed him?

Answer(Note to Readers: There was more than one communication with this question in order to have more details about the horse.)

Thank you for the additional information on your Cushing horse. The goal is to maintain body weight on a total diet that is low in starches and sugars. That type of diet includes hay and the form will depend on the health of his teeth and his ability to chew; …choices are flake hay or processed (cube or pellet) hay. A quick note: if his molars (jaw teeth) are compromised then you will need to feed primarily processed hay; thus mixing the total diet (including the hay) in a gruel (aka oatmeal consistency) by adding water.

Your reference in one of the emails to “low sugar hay” sounds like someone’s marketing pitch. The starch and sugar content of hay will vary based on grass type of course but perhaps more importantly with maturity of the hay. The seller would need to have laboratory data such as %ESC (Ethanol Soluble Carbohydrates) and %starch to make and support such a claim. Grass hays are generally considered low starch and low sugar forages; the general concern with grass forages is with young spring grass that will have elevated levels of the carbohydrates fructans. In California, the grass hays available are typically modest to mature hays because the producer wants to maximize the yield from the hay fields. Because of the mild climate, west coast hay producers can manage their hay production so that 7 – 8 cuttings per year are not uncommon, thus there is usually some level of consistency in hay quality from the same hay producer. I would be very skeptical of any claim on hay starch content unless that particular hay cutting has a lab analysis verifying the amount of starch and ESC in the hay and identifying the hay producer, the field number, and date the field was cut.

So with that background information let’s take a look at your horse. The Timothy cubes are a good choice and the amount fed seems appropriate for his body weight. I do not have the low starch feed label on the product you referenced and that company’s web site does not provide the list of ingredients. The list of ingredients and specially the first 4 ingredients are important is selecting a feed to compliment the forage portion of the diet. This company’s low starch feed you referenced is designed to be the primary feed source, hence the recommended amounts of 12 – 20 lbs per day. My feeding philosophy is different in that I formulate balance feed mixes to COMPLIMENT the forage being fed and the Complete-Feed approach (one-feed-fits-all) is usually not one that fits in my portfolio of recommendations. I like flexibility in feeding and the Integrity formulas are designed for flexibility and designed to COMPLEMENT the forage portion of the diet.


QuestionDo I need to feed electrolytes to my horse every day during the summer?
I ride him 3 days a week for about an hour?

AnswerSupplementing your horse with electrolytes will depend on several factors, including: diet, type of hay, other feeds, & supplements; is a salt block available & used; temperature and humidity; type of exercise, length and intensity; what is the horse’s fitness, etc.  If your horse is on balance diet and you are riding during the cooler part of the day, then for your question, no. However for additional considerations, please read on.

 Commercial electrolytes are expensive and if you are feeding a balanced commercial feed mix, like Integrity, the formula will contain a minimum of 0.5% added salt (sodium chloride) and is balanced for key nutrients, potassium, calcium & magnesium, that are electrolytes. Some performance commercial mixes may contain 1% added salt.

Electrolytes are important for a number of body functions including fluid balance, muscle function and nerve function.  Where there is water loss there will be electrolyte loss which includes not just sweat but also through the urine and feces. A balanced diet will replace the electrolyte with normal water loss but horse owner are not sure when that threshold of normal water loss occurs.

If you have a horse that is worked or even stabled in a hot and/or humid climate then consider the overall nutritional management factors.

  • Feed a good quality hay; alfalfa is a good source of calcium, potassium, so considering the forage feeding guidelines, alfalfa at 25% of the daily forage is workable
  • Feed a commercial mix that is a balance formula, like the Integrity feeds
  • Always allow free access to water
  • Provide a salt block
  • Provide shade and a well ventilated stall

 There is a heat index scoring system that has been around that provides an empirical guideline of when temperature and humidity are too much. I could not identify the original source of this Index so I apologize for not giving credit to the source.

The empirical formula, F° + %RH > 150, is the sum of the temperature (Fahrenheit, F°) and the percent relative humidity (%RH). When the total score is greater than 150 and the % humidity contributes approximately 50% of the total than the horse may be compromised in cooling. The numerical scores and guidelines are as follows.

Index Score Guideline
< 130 Heat loss should not a problem
> 150  Heat loss is compromised especially if humidity contributes more than 50% of the total score
150 - 170  Exercise with caution and observe your horse; electrolyte supplementation should be considered
> 180  little heat dissipation can occur; look for a better time to ride

 If you decide you need to provide electrolyte supplementation, add to the feed or administer directly into the mouth in a paste form. I do not recommend adding electrolytes to water sources. Adding to the water does not allow control of the amount consumed and may adversely influence drinking. There are commercial preparations but they are expensive. A home recipe to consider is mixing 2 parts table salt and 1 part Lite salt; lite salt is a 50/50 blend of table salt and potassium chloride.

Guidelines

  • If you have concerns with temperature and/or humidity then provide the electrolyte supplementation 2 hours before exercise, every 2 hours during exercise and 2 hours after exercise. Obviously you will need to use your horse experience to make the best call. The amount will vary depending on the conditions as stated above. In general, horses not sweating excessively, administer 2 ounces per day of this mixture prior to exercise. Horses that are sweating in a hot and humid condition will need more; need 3- 5 ounces of this mixture in 2 – 3 doses.
  • If you are going on a trail ride for a couple of hours than administer 2 hours before and monitor the sweating and drinking to determine if an additional dose in needed a couple of hours after the ride. Be sure the horse is provided several opportunities to drink.


QuestionWhy do you not recommend feeding 100% alfalfa hay to horses?
There are not many other choices in California.


QuestionI have a horse that turns two this month and we have been feeding her Integrity Adult/Senior but just noticed you have one that is for younger horses called Integrity Growth. Should we be feeding her that instead? We also supplement with extra whole oats and hay.


QuestionI have an 18 year old Arabian gelding who is just my pet. He is a little overweight and I want to know should I feed him the Integrity Lite or Integrity Senior?

AnswerSince he is not active and is your companion, the Integrity Lite will be ideal. This formula does not have any starch-containing grains so it’s very low starch; Integrity Lite without molasses ESC (ethanol soluble carbohydrates) is 5.9% and the %starch is 1.6%; thus the %starch
+ %ESC = 7.5%.


QuestionI have a very old idle horse with worn molars and loss teeth that cannot eat hay. Can I feed him only a senior formula and how much do I feed? He weighs about 1000 pounds.

AnswerNO, because there is inadequate fiber in that diet. Unfortunately, there is no industry standard for senior diets relative to guarantee analysis or “must-have” ingredients. For example, if you look at the senior formulas on the market today, the crude fiber content will range from 8 – 22%; fiber is a dietary component, not a required nutrient. Star Milling’s Integrity Adult/Senior contains 16% crude fiber and equally important is that the first two ingredients are beet pulp and soy-hulls. Integrity Adult/Senior was formulated to compliment the forage portion of the horse’s diet for energy, nutrients and fiber.

Horse owners know a horse needs fiber in their diet. Depending on where you live, the fiber source may be from pasture grazing, baled hay, hay cubes, or hay pellets. Fiber is critical for “Gut Integrity”! Microorganisms that live in the gut depend on fiber and the horse depends on micros to supply a source of energy and a few selective nutrients. Fiber is also critical for gut motility. Remember the gut is a muscle and contraction with consistency is vital for a healthy gut.

So how much fiber does the horse require? The recently published NRC (6th ed.) only addresses issues associated with inadequate fiber intake but does reference the 1989 NRC report of “no less than 1% of BW as forage (DM) per day.” There is no study that states a horse requires X grams of crude fiber per pound of body weight. When we eventually take the step to identify fiber requirement then most likely fiber requirements will be identified as ADF (acid detergent fiber) which is a laboratory assessment that represents certain fiber components. Other fiber assessments that may be considered are NDF (neutral detergent fiber) and TDF (total dietary fiber).

I frequently emphasize the importance of fiber for adult horses by recommending dried forage (hay of some type) at a minimum of 1.5% of body weight (as-fed) and then I further add my Forage Feeding Rules: not more than 50% of the forage can be alfalfa; not more than 50% of the forage can be from a cereal grain hay; 50% of the forage must be a long stem source (baled not cube or pellet); not more than 50% of the forage can be from process hay (pellets, cubes) and so on. These guidelines emphasize the importance of fiber and the source of that fiber. Granted there is not any research that states the number of grams of crude fiber or ADF a horse requires but practical knowledge tells us a certain amount is needed for gut integrity. If we look at moderate quality grass hay and how much that horse needs to consume to sustain body weight and gut integrity, one can mathematically estimate the amount of fiber consumed per day and then how much fiber is required per pound of body weight.

Let’s use an 1100 pound horse as an example and let’s just look at protein and fiber intakes from a senior formula that has 16% crude fiber and 14% crude protein. Energetically if this horse is fed for maintenance, he will need approximately 16.7 Mcal of digestible energy (DE) per day. If this senior feed contains 1.3 Mcal of DE/pound (and most likely that energy information is not on the label or bag) then you would feed about12.8 pound per day just to maintain the body weight of the horse. So how much protein and crude fiber is that horse consuming per day from the 12.8 pounds of senior feed? He is consuming 933 grams of crude fiber and 813 grams of crude protein. The horse’s protein requirement, according to NRC (6th ed.), is 656 grams and as stated above they do not provide a crude fiber or ADF requirement. My estimated fiber requirement for this horse would be approximately 1,930 grams of crude fiber or 2,375 gram of ADF. (I’m not going to bore you with my calculations for now) So compare my estimated fiber requirement of 1,930 grams to 933 grams provided by a diet of just senior feed; in other words the requirement is at least twice that which is provided in this diet example.

Remember, fiber intake is a critical consideration in feeding horses! The first items on the list with feeding a horse: What is the fiber source and how much do I feed?


QuestionThe alfalfa we are feeding our horses has 17%+ protein (DM basis) and has a calcium - phosphorus ratio of 6:1. These are both way over current NRC guidelines. What do you recommend to help get these levels down? If we change forage, I would be thinking of cubes?

AnswerI do not recommend feeding 100% alfalfa as the forage portion of the horse’s diet. Granted there are issues that are and have been associated with alfalfa forage diets including intestinal stones, developmental orthopedic disease, blister beetle toxicity, photosensitization, high potassium levels, protein content that can be 75 – 125% more protein than the horse requires, and excess calcium concentration. However my concerns are about fiber intake. If the forage portion of the diet is 100% alfalfa and there is not any other source of fiber being fed, then this alfalfa base diet is inadequate in fiber intake. Granted, there are not any studies that clearly identify the amount of fiber a horse requires to promote and maintain gut integrity; however, without boring you with calculations, if alfalfa is the only forage source fed then relative to my recommended dietary goals, it provides appropriately 15% less dietary fiber. Key point in feeding horses is to understand that the forage portion of the horse’s diet is fundamental to promoting and maintaining gut integrity.

My recommendations for feeding dry forages:

For most adult horses not grazing pasture, feed a minimum of 1.5% of body weight per day of forage (hay); for example, a 1000 lb horse would be fed a minimum of 15.0 lb of hay per day;


QuestionIs beet pulp really full of sugar like they say? How much protein is in beet pulp? What is the maximum I should feed a day?

CAnsweromposition
Beet pulp is the residue or by-product that remains after sugar beet processing. Dried beet pulp contains approximately 9 to 10% crude protein, approximately 18% crude fiber, 0.75% calcium and 0.09% phosphorus. Beet pulp has bulk laxative like properties; these properties include an affinity for water and a combination of the fiber composition and fiber digestion which promote the gut to contract with more vigor.

 Feeding Amounts & Recommendations
The maximum that can be fed depends on the body weight of the horse, the activity of the horse, and of course what else is being fed. If a horse owner wants to add beet pulp to the diet, my general recommendation has been not more than 0.25% of body weight per day. In other words, for a 900 lb horse, that’s up to 2.25 lbs of beet pulp per day; for a 1000 lb horse, up to 2.5 lbs of beet pulp; and for an 1100 lb horse, up to 2.75 lbs of beet pulp. If you are adding beet pulp to the diet, you must feed by weight, not volume, and if you choose to soak the beet pulp the recommendations are before you add water.

 An important consideration is that every time you add an individual feedstuff to a ration, there is a good chance you will distort the balance of some nutrients. A ration of hay and beet pulp is not considered balance. I have fed beet pulp at much higher levels than my recommendation but I know my nutritional management skills. I often comment that “ones nutritional management skill is the guide to feeding, not some general sound byte”; …which is why I often provide conservative recommendations on feeding because nutritional management skills come with time, experience with many horses, and education.

A side bar note: today’s small coffee can is not 16 oz of coffee and a coffee can of shredded beet pulp does not weigh 1 lb. The last time I checked, shredded beet pulp in a 16 oz container weighed approximately 0.6 lbs. Remember recommendations for feeding beet pulp is based on the weight before you add water.

If you are feeding Integrity products, beet pulp and soy hulls are major ingredients; in several products they are the first and second ingredients, so feeding additional “soluble fiber sources” such as beet pulp would not be needed. For a maintenance or less active horse you may want to consider feeding a balance concentrate such as the Integrity Lite without molasses; the Integrity Lite (as with all Integrity Products) is balanced with all the nutrients the horse requires and is formulated to compliment the forage portion of the horse’s diet.

Sugar / Starch Content
The panic in the horse industry with sugar and starch content in feeds has created a lot of confusion. My concerns have been the comparison of just numbers by horse owners and not knowing if the numbers represent sugar content, starch content, non structural carbohydrates (NSC), non fiber carbohydrates (NFC), water soluble carbohydrates (WSC), ethanol soluble carbohydrates (ESC) or a combination. I receive questions about sugar and starch content quite often but when I query ration goals or which analysis they are referencing as a concern, most do not know or are understandably confused by the terminology.

Below is a table of sugar and starch values for beet pulp and a few other feedstuffs; this information can be found on the Equi Analytical Laboratories website, a feed laboratory assessment company.

Analysis *% Water Soluble Carbohydrates (WSC) * % Ethanol Soluble Carbohydrates (ESC) * % Starch * % Non Structural Carbohydrates (NSC) * % Non Fiber Carbohydrates (NFC)
Beet Pulp  10.3 7.9 1.2 11.8 44.9
Oats 3.2 2.0 44.3 48.7 52.3
Soybean Hulls  3.5 2.5 1.5 5.1 19.2
Wheat Bran  8.3 5.3 22.2 29.8 35.4
Wheat Mids  8.0 4.7 26.5 32.9 37.2

* Source of values are from Equi Analytical Laboratories website; http://www.equi-analytical.com/CommonFeedProfiles

Beet pulp is in the low range for starch content and is considered a safe feed; there is sugar residue remaining after the processing of beets but one needs to consider the total carbohydrates in the feedstuff. Soy hulls are a really good low WSC & ESC by-product that I have used for years in many formulations.

ESC includes the monosaccharides, disaccharides, and the short chain fructans; WSC contains sugars and fructans of all molecular sizes. NSC is often confused with NFC and NSC does not provide a solid profile on sugar and starch content; …so, NSC has been eliminated by many as an evaluation assessment.


QuestionCould you tell me the reason why it is recommended not to feed your horse more than 5 lbs of horse feed from a bag per feeding?

AnswerThe stomach of the horse has limited capacity since the horse evolved as a continuous grazer. The horse’s stomach capacity is relative to the horse’s size but ranges from 2.0 – 3.5 gallons. Their gastrointestinal tract is designed to eat grass continuously or at least for long periods of time during the day. Feeds vary in water content. Grass is about 80% water compared to typical grass hays which are approximately 10% water; most “bag” feeds are about 10% water. With balance concentrates (an example of a “bag” feed) that consist of small particle size feeds (such as pellet-feedstuffs, grains, processed grains, feedstuff by-products) a horse, if allowed, could eat large quantities in one meal in a short period of time. Thus relative to the stomach capacity if the horse consumes a large volume of “bag” feed in one meal, the increase in gut fill will stimulate the gastrointestinal tract to contract with more vigor; the increase in contraction of the gastrointestinal tract translates that the food will pass through the gut at a faster rate.  A faster rate reduces the time the food is exposed to chemical and enzymatic digestion in the foregut (foregut consist of the stomach and small intestine). An important note is that the horse’s stomach will begin to empty when it’s at 60% of capacity and the stomach is an important site for chemical digestion.

When feeding balance concentrates (or bag feeds), the nutritional management goal is to provide an optimum opportunity for chemical and enzymatic digestion to take place in the foregut; the prevalent types of digestion that takes place in the foregut are different then that of the hindgut. Digestion that is prevalent in the hindgut (cecum and large intestine) is microbial, hence a fermentation digestion, and is the primary site where fiber is digested. Any food containing starches, fats and protein that escaped enzymatic digestion will be digested microbially.

In general, the major site for chemical digestion is the stomach, the major site for enzymatic digestion is the small intestine, and the major site for microbial digestion is the hindgut; this summation is a bit over-simplified but hopefully helps with the basic goal to nutritionally management our feeding program relative to the horse’s gut design.

Thus the general rule for most “bag” feeds or grain mixes is that not more than 5 pounds is fed per meal. The amount of fiber and starch in the “bag” feed really influences this generalization. This recommendation actually evolved when balance feeds were primarily a mixture of corn, oats, barley and soybean meal and there is a threshold in which microbial digestion of grain feed mixes will precipitate a belly ache we know as colic.  Today more “bag” feeds have higher fiber and fat content and include feed ingredients such as beet pulp, soy hulls, grass hays, oils (fat) or brans; …so that the amounts fed per meal can vary.

The Integrity feed products contain high levels of beet pulp and/or soy hulls and are considered safe feeds to feed larger quantities because of their high levels of soluble fiber type feedstuffs. Nevertheless, I would rather that you feed the Integrity products more frequently and use the not more than 5 pounds per meal guideline.


QuestionIs Teff hay ok to feed my horse with the Integrity products?

AnswerYes. Teff grass hay has been around for quite awhile but the availability of the grass hay had been inconsistent for west coast horse owners. However, the consistence in availability has changed with more being grown, hay producers recognizing the quality, and producers learning how to work through the growing nuisances of Teff. Also Teff is now available in a hay pellet in southern California. Horses sometimes need time to adjust to Teff hay from the bale because the texture is different than other grass hays.

Teff Hay
Analysis Percent (%)
Crude Protein 10.8%
Crude Fat 2.2%
Crude Fiber 26.8%
Ash 8.8%
Calcium 0.56%
Phosphorus 0.23%
Calcium-Phosphorus Ratio 2.4: 1
Potassium 1.26%
Starch (Ewers Method 1.6%
Teff is native to Ethiopia and is classified as a warm season annual grass. It’s not considered a very good pasture grass because the root system is shallow and the turf is easily damaged with grazing animals.

The composition of Teff hay is a good fit with the Integrity product line. As with any grass forage that is processed for hay, there are many factors that will influence the composition. Over the years hay produced for horses on the west coast usually is a more mature hay to increase the yield from the field and thus is often on the lower to average end on analysis. The Teff hay assessments that I have seen in the past year have been better than most grass hays usually fed on the west coast. I have included a recent report analysis of Teff hay from a source in southern California.

Teff hay is available at Star Milling Dealers


QuestionMy vet told me not to feed my senior a senior diet that has beet pulp and soy hulls because these feeds will cause gas colic; is this true?

AnswerThe production of gas in the gut (gastrointestinal tract) is normal for all mammals and especially for those animals whose gut is designed to eat large quantities of plant materials. Horses are classified as non-ruminant herbivores. Their hindgut, which includes the cecum and colon, is the major site for fermentation of the plant materials that are not (or can not) be digested in the foregut through chemical and enzymatic digestion. In the fermentation process, it’s the “job” of the microorganisms to digest the plant materials and produce selective nutrients and energy that are available to the horse. “Gas” is a by-product of the fermentation process and the horse’s gut is capable of moving the gas though the colon to be released. Excess gas production which has the potential of causing a first class belly ache, that we know as colic, can result from numerous factors; these factors include inadequate fiber in the diet, inadequate exercise, inadequate consumption of water (note: fiber and exercise influence water consumption), inadequate management routine, certain drugs, specially antibiotics, over feeding starchy feeds, changes in feeds and amount fed, inconsistent daily meal frequency and amounts fed, and (perhaps the cause that will step on the toes of horse owners….) inadequate nutritional management experience and knowledge.

Beet pulp and soy hulls contain a type of fiber that is fermentable and is broken down by the microorganisms that live in the gut. The grasses that are fed via pasture and hay also have some fermentable fiber as well as the fiber that is classified as insoluble fiber. If there is inadequate forage provided, and the horse is fed a large quantity of fermentable fiber, then sure, excess gas production could occur; another scenario is if large portions of grain type feeds (in which major ingredients include corn, oats, and/or barley) are fed, then an excess gas production could occur. Any combination of factors listed in the first paragraph can cause an excess gas production, …but these scenarios are still not that simple; …because the bottom line is that nutritional management of the horse plays the most important role in his gut health. Nutritional Management does not come from what we read on the internet, it’s a result of time, experience and education.

 Are there some horses whose gut may be more sensitive to fermentable fiber type feeds; sure, …BUT through my 40+ years of experiences with horses as a owner, breeder, farm manager, university professor, and nutritional consultant, I have not had one horse that could not be easily managed with a diet that includes fermentable fiber such as beet pulp and soy hulls.

 Summary: Beet pulp and soy hulls…

  1. are important feedstuffs in the nutritional management of horses.
  2. are a safe source of energy in balanced concentrates to fuel the horse in what ever he does.
  3. are solid ingredients with other feedstuffs that are formulated for a balanced concentrate mix that will compliment the forage portion of the horse’s diet.
  4.  have bulk laxative like properties that will assist the gut to contract with consistency and regularity as well as maintain a healthy microorganism population in the gut.


QuestionI attended lectures with you at Cal Poly Pomona. I have a mid-teen paint gelding who is currently on an all alfalfa diet and is maintaining a good body condition and is in overall good health but urinates excessively.  He tends to have a saturated wet spot approximately 10'x10'.  I am assuming that he is getting too much protein from his straight alfalfa diet.  I am looking for a cost effective solution to provide the roughage and bulk he needs while lowering the amount of alfalfa/protein he is taking in.  Is there any advantage to either timothy or orchard to justify paying twice the cost of Bermuda?  Which would you recommend?


QuestionI have a 33 year old pony in good health that needs a low starch, no molasses complete feed that he does not have to 'chew'. His molars are worn down to his gums, so he needs a feed that is soft or can be softened with water. My vet recommended no more than 13% starch. Do you have a feed for him?


QuestionI have a 6 month old Quarter filly that was just weaned. Do I need to feed her grain? Can I feed her alfalfa hay?


QuestionI feed my horse carrots and apples 3 times a week? Is that too much?

QuestionMy horse is a 13 year old, gelding, paint/quarter horse. His work is only trail rides 2 times a week on average. He currently eats alfalfa hay and some orchard hay and rice bran. He had a slight case of colic the other day and I want to switch to Integrity. He has quite a bit of energy. What is your opinion for a horse that does not get much work with an easy breezy life style?

QuestionI’m trying to estimate the amount of Integrity Lite (no molasses) to feed my two horses; a 22 yr Andalusian gelding with poor upper molars, and a 19 yr Paso Fino mare with IR (insulin resistant) and minimal work. Live together in a 24X48 stall with 24/7 bale net of Bermuda.  The Integrity bag label suggests about 6.6 pounds for a 1000 lb horse.  In your response to an owner with a 28 yr horse with Cushing's you had suggested 2 pounds/day of the Integrity Lite (no molasses).   I feed 4 pounds per day to the gelding and 2 pounds/day to the mare - each split into am/pm feedings.  Why the big difference in the label recommendation (6 pounds/day) and the recommendation to the 28 yr horse (2 pounds/day)?  The big gap confused me.  Thank you.
(Follow up note from customer): …Thanks for taking my call this afternoon and for the recommendations. As the staple, would Orchard or another hay be better?

QuestionI have a 3 year old Thoroughbred laid off race training for sesamoiditis. I need something to mix the silicon supplement with while undergoing shockwave therapy. I was thinking of Integrity Lite or Low Starch?

QuestionI have an IR (insulin resistant) mare (vet diagnosed) that I have to keep on low starch, a 32 year old senior with minimal teeth, a Hackney pony and a 13 year old quarter horse. I am content with how each looks right now but am looking for a more consistent feeding program. My vet has had me using beet pulp (soaked, rinsed for the IR horse). Both the pony and QH put on weight easily and are worked lightly.  Currently I feed 3 times a day and feed consists of beet pulp soaked (mornings only), a senior feed, a lite feed from the same company, a high moisture forage and orchard grass.  With the exception of the hay, all feeds are scale weighed. The IR horse gets only a small amount of orchard and more of the high moisture forage.  I try to keep her ESC+starch below 11%. If we exceed what her body can handle she gets sore feet.  I do ride and drive her a couple of times a week.  She is not on medication and I have been able to manage her IR fairly well with feeding and exercise. I'd like to get away from the beet pulp as a stand-alone feed if appropriate.  I'd appreciate your input.  I've use the feed that I do because it is one of the few feeds that publish the WSC and ESC.